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That online degrees have less merit than degrees earned offline

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True Capitalist AcolyteTrue Capitalist Acolyte (PRO)
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I as Pro have argue in favor of the resolution. That online degrees have less merit than if earned offline. My objective is simple, to show that degrees online are worth less than degrees earned off online.  For this I have brought three key points showing online degrees are worth less than offline degrees. I will provide facts and site links the following round. The final I will sum up my points.

1. Online degrees aren't prestigious

What gives a degree value? Probably what the degree is in. After that, what gives a degree value? The University a degree is obtained from. Just simply saying one has graduated from Harvard, Yale, or Oxford automatically brings value to a degree. An online degree doesn't carry the same value so it is worth less.

2. Tests to receive an online degree are worthless

An online degree is obtained by one's work online. This means there is no classroom setting and a teacher to keep the watch. It is all too easy to cheat when one is taking a test online. One doesn't even need to take a test when they can pay a friend or professional to take the test. How would anyone know if you took the test before? They wouldn't unless the memorized your writing style which is very unlikely.

3. Online degrees have no substance

There is a lack of contact with real people in online interactions with people. Where as students who obtain a degree offline can participate in activities, meet their professors, and talk to their classmates.

Those are my three points I will argue in this debate.

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2016-05-09 05:20:50
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BifurcationsBifurcations (CON)

In this round I will explain what online degrees are and explain by what metric the "merit" of a degree should be decided upon,  this undermines the case already presented by my opponent.

 

1. They are classified by distance learning and are offered by both accredited institutions and simply websites. If the institution offereing the course is not accreditted the degree cannot be accredited either therefore falls outwith this debate. The people most likely to use these degrees are people how are currently in work or have such barries like finances or disabilities making physically attending a university close to impossible.

 

2. Merit in this debate should be judged on the degree's usefulness. Harvard has been ranked best for online degrees so if University name is important then it is still possible with online degrees. For the people that I spoke about above, they would be locked out of getting a degree if online degrees were not available. Tthis allows them to get a qualification and a job so it it useful and the degree has merit. The "lack of substance" is not true as the courses are still run via lectures and lecture notes, you still get a tutor and a point of contact that way. University degrees are earned by indivdual study and most degrees are using online resources more anyway. The only thing you might not get is lab experience but most people who do an online degree are not looking to be research scientists. Many also promote the use of skype for students to connect.

The best point my opponent makes is that there is room for cheating. Firstly, cheating happens in ordinary courses to so that is not mutually exclusive. Online degrees have many ways of preventing cheating like proctored exams. Obviously it can be imporved and given the demand for these degrees and the fact the proceedure itself is still young, they will be imporved.

 

Pro misunderstands university learning, oppose.


Return To Top | Posted:
2016-05-09 07:55:05
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Cross-Examination
: Are most exams for online degrees proctored? Yes or no.
: It seems to me that for accredited institutions the answer to that is yes. Like I said this is a new venture and the security purposes will only get better.
: Is it possible to cheat in exams for a "normal" degree?
: What do you believe the difference is when studying for a "normal" degree and a real life degree?
: * "normal" then online
: It is possible to cheat in exams for a normal degree.
: One has less time to study for an online degree.
: Caen you clarifie WhatsApp you believe you have less time to study for an online degree? Can you explain why that affects the merit of the degree rather than the grade of degree received?
: *can you clarify why (my keyboard was set in French for a second, apologies for that)
: I wrote mistakenly previously. I meant that degrees obtained offline have less time to study.
: Ok, I'll rephrase the question to make it more broad then. Can you explain what you believe the differences in studying are between online and offline degrees?

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True Capitalist AcolyteTrue Capitalist Acolyte (PRO)

My opponent made several provocative and erroneous statements in this debate. Most of which is based off her opinion exclusively. I have a limited response, therefore I will address my opponent's dismissive attitude towards cheating.


My opponent goes on to say:

"The best point my opponent makes is that there is room for cheating. Firstly, cheating happens in ordinary courses to so that is not mutually exclusive. Online degrees have many ways of preventing cheating like proctored exams..."


My opponent is very dismissive of cheating when we know for a fact that it is far easier to cheat online. If the degree is obtained online we have no way of knowing who is doing the work other than by a confirmation of audio or video which can easily be manufactured(I will elaborate more on this later). For example, what makes any person reading this debate know who either of the debaters are? We are anonymous and hidden. What is there to prevent my opponent or I from replacing ourselves with someone else in this debate?


How does the reader of this debate know for a fact that the person writing arguments for Pro in Round 1 is the same person as the person finishing arguments in Round 3? There is no definitive way of knowing. We can say "I recognize that person's hand writing." Can you actually say that? There is a thing called mimicry where a person imitates the way a person walks, talks, eats, and writes. Those who are skilled in mimicry, it is easy to cheat.


We can't simply dismiss cheating because it happens in real life as well. The magnitude of cheating online as opposed to offline is great. Even a proctored exam would not address this in many cases. If I normally go to a class every day and when exam time comes a different guy shows up to take the test and write my name then we will be caught cheating with ease. Versus online, there is nothing preventing a different person from taking an exam. Even if it is a proctored exam, who would know me? No one.


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2016-05-13 04:07:09
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BifurcationsBifurcations (CON)
My argument is not to dismiss the fact that cheating exists it is, as the debate lays out, to show that online degrees have at least the same merit as offline degrees. Since we both agree that cheating can and does exist in both types of exams then on that ground an online degree has at least the same merit as an offline degree. 

The only rebuttal that my opponent has presented is a continuation of this argument by saying that because your tutor doesn't see you in class it is impossible to identify you. This is why matriculation cards exist even for offline degrees. These are photo ID cards with your student number name, etc printed on them and have to be shown at any exam. Some can and do require you to provide an additional piece of photo ID for checks as well. Lecturers do not know every one of their hundered plus students by name and face either hence why they check matriculation cards.

In terms of web cam footage being doctored that is not how the majority of proctored exams happen and I don't need to support that individual policy. The final exams also are not carried out in the same way as a free site for debates that's completely dis analogous.

Here are the links I forgot to insert into my first post for the sources I used:
http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/college-planning/admissions/online-degree.htm
http://www.usnews.com/education/online-education/articles/2014/06/17/think-twice-before-cheating-in-online-courses

You still get taught the material, you still have the same study requirements and you have course tutors whichever degree you have. There is study groups and class meet ups possible so over all the degree you earned is still an equivalent representation of the work you have done. I have shown it is possible to minimise the risk of cheating to comparable levels of offline degrees so this does not diminish the merit of an accredited degree. 

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2016-05-13 11:31:41
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Cross-Examination
: What do you think the difference between the work loads of an online degree and an offline degree are?
: can you explain what you think the merit of a degree should be based on?
: The merit of degree should be based on the assumption a person has met a specific educational standard
: I think the work loas is relative in most respects. However, participation plays a larger role in offline degrees
: Can you be more specific with what you mean by participation?
: Also could you explain what you mean when you say the work load is relative in most respects?

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