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Racism is normal, not systemic or created.

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David NicholsDavid Nichols (PRO)
Whites do not move into Black neighborhoods or put their kids into Black-filled schools. No system conditioned Whites to think this way. 
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2020-12-24 06:14:05
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dengu0924dengu0924 (CON)
People are not born racists. Rather, racism is the result of the conditioning of the brain. Systemic factors certain play a role in the formulation of racism, for example, various media. You can also point to police brutality against Blacks in the US and say that is certainly systemic, and not normal. 

If you compare the situation in the US over the last century, it is safe to say that racism has improved dramatically. It is still far from being perfect today, but the improvement is undeniable. This is because the we have successfully addressed a part of the systemic causes behind racism, and that has in turn led to the diminishing of racism that we have seen. Had racism been just "normal", there would not be improvement at all.  

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2020-12-24 16:05:52
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David NicholsDavid Nichols (PRO)
1.Of course people aren't born racist. They learn it from bad experiences with other races. 2.There is no police brutality. Almost all Blacks get what they deserve. 3.There has been no change in racism over time. Whites just hide it nowadays.
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2020-12-24 16:22:42
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dengu0924dengu0924 (CON)
1. Sure, personal experience feeds into racism. But that doesn't preclude the existence of systemic factors as well. 
2. "There is no police brutality. Almost all blacks get what they deserve". Following the George Floyd case, all four officers involved were fired and one of them was charged for second degree murder. Apparently the police department and judge disagrees with you. 
3. Of course there have been changes in racism over time. Today you can find Black people being in top executive positions at many large companies, this was certainly not possible in the past. We even had a half Black president, elected by the people. Look at how many interracial couples there are. "Whites just hide it nowadays"? Well, is that just yourself? Hard to believe that is a FACT.   

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2020-12-24 17:10:59
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David NicholsDavid Nichols (PRO)
1.Whites are going to be racist whether there are "systems" of racism or not---Whites NATURALLY think that Blacks act strange. You could give Blacks the nicest neighborhoods in the world, and all the money in the world, and Whites would still avoid them. 2.The coroner said George Floyd died from the drugs he swallowed when the cops showed up, not from choking. The cops were only arrested to placate Blacks. 3.There are more successful Blacks now only in order to, again, placate Blacks. A relatively few rich Blacks doesn't mean Whites like Blacks. 4.I see few Black/White couples (thank God). 5.I have lived in all-White neighborhoods my whole life...I know what they say about Blacks, so it is not just I who think this way.
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2020-12-24 17:34:09
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dengu0924dengu0924 (CON)
You keep mentioning things were done to "placate Blacks". However, the significance of the George Floyd incident is that it attracted unprecedented support from Whites, and if you look at BLM it is no longer a Black movement today. How do you explain a significant outpouring of White support? Or is that again just placating Blacks? I suppose you can just keep throwing that at anything I mention. 

I would also like to bring out some statistics. According to US Census, the number of interracially married couples has increased from 310,000 in 1970 to more than 2 million in 2008. Whether you live in an all-white neighborhood and see "few Black/White couples" is irrelevant. Statistics points to the rise, and this says something about the systemic change which the US society has undergone.  



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2020-12-24 18:08:33
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David NicholsDavid Nichols
There should be no voting for debates. The opinions are asinine.
Posted 2020-12-27 11:28:12
David NicholsDavid Nichols
deng--1.You're getting off the subject...and you make me laugh!--- White communists and naive, young, propagandized Whites are the only ones who support George Floyd and BLM. 2.I didn't say anything about other mixed-race couples. I only spoke about Black/White ones---there are only a few White females who downgrade their children's gene pool. You would think all White mothers would want their daughters to have pretty hair too! 3.Now, learn how to read so I don't have to repeat myself all the time.
Posted 2020-12-25 05:06:29
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2020-12-27 08:44:03
RishiD123Judge: RishiD123
Win awarded to: dengu0924
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I am awarding this win to dengu because he was able to counter Pro's ridiculous unsubstantiated arguments using facts and logic. Also Pro made several false statements such as "There is no police brutality" and "George Floyd died from the drugs he swallowed". These two statements are completely false and Pro's argument in and of itself was blatanly racist and discriminatory towards Black people.
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