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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 1:59 AM
Crow: I understand my sexuality perfectly and it's why I won't settle for counterfeit when I have already experienced the real.
Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 2:22 AM
JoMomma: You can't substitute counterfeit for real when it comes to pleasure.

Why not?

It is true that many individuals can produce a higher orgasm through self-servicing. The desire for the real thing is there, but it doesn't necessarily correlate with a better experience.

So again... why not?

I know my energy is drained and my internal muscles get weak from giving my man the kind of sex he desires and I know that I was energized and that my middle gets tight and my waist gets smaller from having the kind of pleasure that satisfies me.

That just means you are probably not sexually compatible, withing the current framework of what you know about your sexuality.

Sometimes that is just a reality you have to contend with.

Do you get it? I'm not going to write in sexually descriptive language because it isn't my intention to arouse anyone. It is my intention to explain the female anatomy I have, and how it relates to the male anatomy, so that two people who genuinely like each other who reads this can explore each other with a bit of fore knowledge.

Yes, but within that you have also taken opinionated stances which overplay the role of technical routines.

I have explored my sexuality in depth, and I can have absolutely explosive orgasms. I know women who have explored their own sexuality and have found different things to be pleasurable than what you are advocating.

My intention here is not to judge your way of doing things. Just to prevent you from generalizing men and women, their sexual psyches, and what they respond to physically. Sex isn't a one track activity.


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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Aug 14 2016 2:41 AM
Krazy: He doesn't really think the U.S. is the worst country. He said he would rather move to Honduras(country with highest crime) than the U.S.(not serious)
He is just jealous that the U.S. is looked at as the best country and is viewed as having the best government system(its constitutional republic). He believes his country is the best and believes New Zealand's government is the best.
JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 2:52 AM
Crow: I realize that individuals have different needs and desires, but I also realize that there were tried and true methods of being sexually satisfied before porn was easily accessible and ideas about fetishes were broadcast online. We are all on this planet because of sexual intercourse. I'd like to think it means more than just psychological arousal based on fetishes or the viewing of images.
I have explored my sexuality in depth, and I can have absolutely explosive orgasms. I know women who have explored their own sexuality and have found different things to be pleasurable than what you are advocating.

Well when you find a female who has experienced a cervical orgasm from intercourse, than I'm sure she will relate that it is the most satisfying sexual experience by far, which is what I'm advocating for. It can never be reached while performing, nor can it be reached when there is a lack of mutual respect and intimacy because of the obstacle that porn places on that intimacy. In my opinion men are so distraught with the opportunities that women now have, that they are the ones who are refusing to have sex the way we like it, which at one time it is the way that they prefered it as well..
Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 3:17 AM
JoMomma: I realize that individuals have different needs and desires, but I also realize that there were tried and true methods of being sexually satisfied before porn was easily accessible and ideas about fetishes were broadcast online.

Right, but don't you think the new information is a good thing?

Or is there an issue with allowing people to broaden their horizons? Provide for themselves independently?

I'd like to think it means more than just psychological arousal based on fetishes or the viewing of images.

Fetishes and deep psyche happen to be the largest determinant of orgasmic power.

These are the things that actually produce the most sex hormones after all.

Well when you find a female who has experienced a cervical orgasm from intercourse, than I'm sure she will relate that it is the most satisfying sexual experience by far, which is what I'm advocating for.

Yeah, pretty sure the women I am referring to have had hundreds of orgasms, mostly through masturbation but also through sex.

You really underplay the role of fetishes and deep psyche. They take predominance over anything else.

In my opinion men are so distraught with the opportunities that women now have, that they are the ones who are refusing to have sex the way we like it, which at one time it is the way that they prefered it as well..

It is the opposite.

Sex culture has changed towards the production of beta males. You are older, so you may not of witnessed it to the same extent.

The combination of women who now watch porn and understand their sexuality, and men that naturally feature a higher production of sex hormones, has allowed for women to domineer in most sexual relationships.

Also I find your position to be reverting back to be one-sided mindset of having men do most of the work. You just said that men are intentionally not being pleasing, which implies performance, something you do not hold yourself accountable for doing. Honestly, I probably can't do things the way that I like, in the way that you like. It is just a matter of incompatibility.
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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 3:39 AM
Crow: Right, but don't you think the new information is a good thing?

No, not when that info is leading people into sex that isn't as satisfying as the satisfaction that comes from natural sex.
Or is there an issue with allowing people to broaden their horizons? Provide for themselves independently?
They have no idea how they are harming themselves.
Fetishes and deep psyche happen to be the largest determinant of orgasmic power.

These are the things that actually produce the most sex hormones after all.

source please
Yeah, pretty sure the women I am referring to have had hundreds of orgasms, mostly through masturbation but also through sex.

one cervical orgasm = hundreds of forced orgasms in my experience
You just said that men are intentionally not being pleasing, which implies performance,
It implies that they are refusing to angle their penises to the top of our cervixes, and instead would rather have friction around halfway up our cylinder at half penetration so they can watch their own shaft going in and out. Didn't you read and understand my analogy about the shaft and cylinder?So yes they are intentionally refusing to fully penetrate us in exchange for watching their own anatomy because of what is depicted in porn. The only porn I ever saw was porn I found on my mans kindle, and then I understood why he refused to fully penetrate me, it was cuz he was psychologically stimulated by watching dicks at the expense of FEELING my cylinder's vacuum response if he were ever to fully penetrate me!

Quote me one female who likes to get half shafted! If there are any I'd bet they get paid by the porn industry to keep selling their poison!

How does getting half shafted imply a man doing all the work. He wouldn't have to do any work if he were to give me full shaft, my internal anatomy would engulf him and neither one of us would have to barely move to get enjoyment.
admin
By admin | Aug 14 2016 3:57 AM
Crow: So it's bad because there's rape, violence, and media censorship.
Yip, I hear a lot more about those things out of the US than I do out of Eritrea.

At the very least Eritreans realize their country is shit. In America they see those same things and think it's awesome.
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admin
By admin | Aug 14 2016 3:59 AM
Crow: Pornography emulates real life sex.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh wait you're serious...
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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Aug 14 2016 4:26 AM
JoMomma: Why the chat about sex? Is that your hobby?
JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 4:51 AM
Bi0Hazard: No - the conversation was never finished and bound to be rehashed. As long as porn is marketed and accepted I will offer an alternative perspective on how porn harms intimacy when I see the opportunity to do so. Everything is overtly sexualized but when an individual attempts to share valuable information about how it is harmful (outside of some prudish religious idea that is completely ineffectual to anyone who is experienced) they get stigmatized for being expressive. I know my descriptions were explicit in that they are informative about the nature of male and female anatomy, but it is the only way that I can think of to defend the natural intimacy that is possible between the sexes.
Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Aug 14 2016 4:59 AM
JoMomma: So, you personally think that pornography harms society?
JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 6:15 AM
Bi0Hazard: Yes, that is my belief!
Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 7:31 AM
Guys, please, talk about something else.
Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 7:32 AM
Bi0Hazard: He doesn't really think the U.S. is the worst country. He said he would rather move to Honduras(country with highest crime) than the U.S.(not serious)
He is just jealous that the U.S. is looked at as the best country and is viewed as having the best government system(its constitutional republic). He believes his country is the best and believes New Zealand's government is the best.

I wish you were right. But I'll take his word for what he believes.
Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 7:36 AM
admin: So it's bad because there's rape, violence, and media censorship.
Yip, I hear a lot more about those things out of the US than I do out of Eritrea.

At the very least Eritreans realize their country is shit. In America they see those same things and think it's awesome.

Who's "they"? Ordinary Americans? You're saying that most Americans believe rape, violence and media censorship are awesome?
admin
By admin | Aug 14 2016 7:49 AM
Krazy: The culturally reflected average American. I don't have census data on what every American believes but I can make an estimation based on what I see.

Just a moment ago, we heard the defensiveness of Americans about the violence in their culture. So clearly Americans don't even realize there's anything wrong with their culture in this respect. In few countries are shootings as commonplace as they are in America, and all the others are war-torn third-world countries. Americans are, by and large, surprisingly OK with that.

Likewise with the media. For a nation that pioneered free press I'm not seeing the sort of anger that I believe Americans should have towards networks like Fox or the Huffington Post. In fairness, such anger is not entirely absent, but it's served in a hodgepodge of political drama, small scale at best. And I'll defend the US has no respect for the bodily autonomy of others. If I express outrage over a rape or murder, I get called a SJW and all sorts of hurtful things. Not just on here. And that's exclusively only been by people from one country.
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Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 8:04 AM
admin: Just curious, do you have the same feeling for the US a few hundred years ago, or just modern-day America?
Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 8:07 AM
Krazy: A lot of what you listed were good things.
Just to be clear, that message was for admin. Should have replied that to his post rather than to the thread in general.
admin
By admin | Aug 14 2016 8:33 AM
Krazy: I feel that a few hundred years ago, relative to other countries that existed at that time, the US was better. US today hasn't improved a lot, forwards in some ways, backwards in others, while the rest of the world has outpaced them in almost every aspect of social development.
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Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 8:53 AM
admin: Because I don't like modern-day America in a sense. Wide-spread abortions, twisted justice system, they're okay with sick perversions like homosexuality, etc.

It was a lot better at its founding and origins in the 1600s-1700s. It was based on biblical principles and common sense.
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