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Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 13 2016 11:22 PM
For example. Your claim that the US is not very giving or kind, when the US is the #1 generous country in the world by percentage of GDP. New Zealand and Canada coming in at 2nd and 3rd, by the way.
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By admin | Aug 13 2016 11:39 PM
Krazy: It's an opinion, not an absolute truth. Something like culture is hard to prove. I observe it in the news I hear, the people I meet, and the things I witness. A few examples:

America is one of the few places where I've ever heard of the poor being blamed for being poor. And the only one where this is a common belief.
America has a storied history, and continues to be at the forefront of, racial violence and inequality.
American education is one of the few where children are commonly taught to pledge allegiance to America
Americans use exploitative trade practices to keep third world countries in poverty ie loan sharking, trade courts etc
America is the only country I know of where the concept of small government is a significant social movement
American politicians take vast sums from wealthy donors and aren't even ashamed of that fact
Corruption prosecutions are nonetheless extremely rare in America
America has a political system dominated by lobbiests, the largest of which are 2 parties that do little to serve the interests of American people
American wealth gaps are increasing faster than most of the rest of the world
America is the only country where taking cocaine doesn't make you a druggie
America is the only country where owning a gun doesn't make you an extremist or part of a tiny minority
America is one of the few countries where the legal system is so broken something like patent trolling can be a thing
America is one of the few countries where despite people working 2 jobs struggling to even pay for college tuition, people still oppose the minimum wage
America is probably the most bigoted non-theocratic country in terms of the attitudes people express
America will easily drop investment into green energy, education etc, if it means things are better for America immediately ie energy independence, loan repayments
America is the only country I know of not to launch a large series of prosecutions after a major financial crisis (cf the Asian financial crisis etc)
America is one of the only countries that believes in peace through strength

... and I could probably go on for hours.
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By admin | Aug 13 2016 11:40 PM
Krazy: Sure if you count corporates tossing off money to each other, absolutely. A lot of US billionaires have nothing better to do.
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Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 12:27 AM
admin: America is one of the few places where I've ever heard of the poor being blamed for being poor. And the only one where this is a common belief.

Hear it all the time from Europeans.

I call it intelligent. Individuals with less money should be held responsible for having less money.

America has a storied history, and continues to be at the forefront of, racial violence and inequality.

Nope.

You have countries with much more ethnic tension and violence. Even forms of systematic genocide are going on elsehwere.

American education is one of the few where children are commonly taught to pledge allegiance to America

You got a point there.

Americans use exploitative trade practices to keep third world countries in poverty ie loan sharking, trade courts etc

I call it capitalism.

Protectionism is exploitative (trade courts) , but it exists everywhere.

America is the only country I know of where the concept of small government is a significant social movement

Are you living under a rock?

Libertarians are all around the word. Especially Europe and South America.

And also good for libertarians. They are not ignorant sycophants shining the shoes of politicians.

American politicians take vast sums from wealthy donors and aren't even ashamed of that fact

Politics suck everywhere.

I can tell you that the US isn't even in the top 30 of countries ran by big money, despite having the most big money.

America has a political system dominated by lobbiests, the largest of which are 2 parties that do little to serve the interests of American people

Lobbyists exist everywhere.

If you don't believe it to be so, you are either being ignorant or delusional.

American wealth gaps are increasing faster than most of the rest of the world

Statistics?

America is the only country where taking cocaine doesn't make you a druggie

Where are you getting that bullshit information from. Cocaine is considered among the top hard narcotics.

Which is a terribly popularized misconception btw.

America is the only country where owning a gun doesn't make you an extremist or part of a tiny minority

False.

America is also nowhere close to the top of gun freedom laws.

It is true that gun advocates in other countries get wrongfully labelled as extremists. Like the Ukrainian Right Sector.

America is one of the few countries where the legal system is so broken something like patent trolling can be a thing

Patents shouldn't even exist, so those guys can go wild.

America is one of the few countries where despite people working 2 jobs struggling to even pay for college tuition, people still oppose the minimum wage

The vast majority of Americans support a minimum wage increase.

Somewhere in the 70 percents.

They shouldn't though.

America is probably the most bigoted non-theocratic country in terms of the attitudes people express

Based off of what?

Did you hear several people who were Americans express theocratic and bigoted views?

I have heard about just as many bible thumpers in Europe. You think the US is more theocratic and bigoted than nations like Saudi Arabia too?

America will easily drop investment into green energy, education etc, if it means things are better for America immediately ie energy independence, loan repayments

Good for America

be careful about conflating America with the United States of America

America is the only country I know of not to launch a large series of prosecutions after a major financial crisis (cf the Asian financial crisis etc)

Good for America.

The legal system everywhere is inhumane and a drain on taxpayer dollars.

America is one of the only countries that believes in peace through strength

Every state with a military believes in peace through strength.

... and I could probably go on for hours.

Go on...
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Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 12:28 AM
A lot of what you listed were good things.
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By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 12:36 AM
admin: A lot of US billionaires have nothing better to do
I think we need more billionaires, to be honest.
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By admin | Aug 14 2016 12:41 AM
Well that's the thing. These are cultural beliefs on the basis of a position of cultural ignorance, since I am not American, have never been there, and don't really know what it's like. But personally, to me, it sounds like the closest place to hell on earth. I even feel sorry for anyone unlucky enough to be born there. You guys have different values and that's fine.
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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 12:52 AM
Crow: Everytime I deny that all women share the exact same sexuality, you then proceed to generalize all women by saying they have the same tastes. Completely disregarding the existence of fetishes.
First of all, I do not care about your perspective or preference. I care that you are trying to speak for over 3.5 billion women.

And yes, you need to put work into sex. That is how you generally produce longer and heightened orgasms. Otherwise it would just be placing a cock in a vagina. Nothing special about that.

If it is exhausting or unenjoyable, then chances are both parties are sexually incompatible or at least need to be more experimental. That's just the way it is.

I never said all women or all men about anything. Women and men who have been exposed to porn have most likely numbed themselves to the pleasure that non-porn or fetish type of sex can bring. I'm speaking from the perspective of a female who at one time enjoyed my sexuality with a male who also enjoyed human exploration without the need to perform to mimic the imagery that porn depicts.

I will state it again: My anatomy derives more pleasure from close body to body contact during penetration because it allows for more friction to my external genitalia. Once a fully aroused male, enters a female in a position where their bodies are in close contact, they can move together (not one party doing all the work) for both people to experience pleasure.

Porn encourages positions in which penetration can be viewed by the male, which I likened to an prolonged pelvic exam, as far as the physical sensation. I'm continuing this convo for any males or females who are reading to know what a sexually liberated natural female like myself expects during sex.

I abstain now, not because I am a prude, but because I once loved sex, but will not conform to the idea that I need to perform and receive nothing pleasurable for myself in the process.
My mother was a shitty parent.
So you say, even if it is true, it doesn't mean all women are.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
This is what guys seem to think when they get a dose of their own medicine. I'm not acting as I do for revenge, I'm doing so in defence.
There are plenty of gentleman out there.
The only gentlemen I know are taken, and I'm not the type to hate on someone for having someone who is good and try to steal someone else's man.
Your attacks on men is out of character, and really has no relevance to anything being discussed.

My attacks, as you call it, are in response to you calling the children of single moms "faggy." I blame men for the cruelty they direct at the sons of single moms, who in many cases raise manlier men who are compassionate than fathers who demand masculinity and raise their sons to despise females.
Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 12:54 AM
admin: But personally, to me, it sounds like the closest place to hell on earth.

That goes beyond cultural ignorance. It is just a plain moronic thing to think.

If you want hell on earth, then go to a place that is currently in the midst of 4th generation warfare. And since you are such a keen liberal, you can find a lot of places that are more staunchly conservative than the US, where there are no regulations, rights, or progressive taxation. There are also places with worst living conditions, employment, fun activities, ect.

I'll name one place immediately worst than the good ol' USA.

Eritrea

- Worst media freedom in the world.
- Death squads patrol the streets of major urban areas and drag civilians into torture chambers carved out of war bunkers
- It is common for city dwellers and villagers to be raped by soldiers, and you'll never have a day in court
- Every other decade you will suffer drought, where a third of the population will dehydrate and starve.
- You will get killed by the government and the mobs if you practice outside Eritrean Tewahdo Church
- The most popular form of marriage for the Tigray is mountain rape, where women are taken to isolated areas and raped until they are impregnated.
- You will be subjected to forced military service, in a country with the second most soldiers per capita

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Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 12:58 AM
JoMomma: Women and men who have been exposed to porn have most likely numbed themselves to the pleasure that non-porn or fetish type of sex can bring.

You recognize that.

How can you attack porn when you admit it provides more pleasure?

My advice: fetishes are not exclusive to porn, and anyone who has them (which is everyone) is encouraged to try them in real life

Porn encourages positions in which penetration can be viewed by the male, which I likened to an prolonged pelvic exam, as far as the physical sensation.


You act like you are an expert on pornography.

I never reached that conclusion. How much porn do you watch yourself, and of what types from which sites?

This is what guys seem to think when they get a dose of their own medicine. I'm not acting as I do for revenge, I'm doing so in defence.

Call it what you like.

It is pretty childish.
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Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 1:07 AM
Pornography emulates real life sex.

If I apply pressure to my penis, prostate, and epididymis at the same time, and concentrate my mind for a prolonged period of time, I am going to have a very intense orgasm no matter what. It doesn't matter if it is a video or irl.

The reason pornography is starting to become hated, is because it takes away power from members of both sexes to exploit each other. Men can no longer take advantage of women who are sexually insecure, and women can no longer exploit mens cocks to perform demeaning tasks like kissing ass and buying free dinners.

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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 1:15 AM
Crow: How much do you know about female anatomy? Here is a good article I just found in Men's health so it's not something a woman dreamed up to get their way. http://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/her-pleasure-zones
Here's another article that describes positions that pleasure females and a cervical orgasm from a female perspective.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a6896/cervical-orgasm-guide/
Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 1:16 AM
The term "numbing" is only appropriate in the context of conditioned and routined porn. There are tons of those 5 minute short jack off videos. Those are for ejaculation, and not for orgasms. I don't like em' much.

Here is a little something I find interesting though, and would like to share it,. Many men go their entire lives never experiencing an orgasm, and only ejaculation. That blows my mind, because there is no way you could explain the difference to a guy through words.

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Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 14 2016 1:18 AM
admin: Well that's the thing. These are cultural beliefs on the basis of a position of cultural ignorance, since I am not American, have never been there, and don't really know what it's like. But personally, to me, it sounds like the closest place to hell on earth. I even feel sorry for anyone unlucky enough to be born there. You guys have different values and that's fine.
Yeah, I never got the impression that it was "hell on earth". Even though I've never been to another country, I don't want to leave here.
Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 1:25 AM
JoMomma: How much do you know about female anatomy?

I am not a gynecologist if that is what you are asking. I do know that you just reverted back to speaking for the sexual preferences of over 3.5 billion women.

Most of real sex is driven from the deep subconscious, and is very psychological. If it isn't, then it is just a meaningless sensory activity involving a cock and a vagina.

The role of fetishes play the most important part in producing an orgasm, which transcend basic technical routines and positions.

Many positions are considered more pleasurable due to fetishes and deep psyche. Doggystyle is essentially the trademark position for hardcore dominant and submissives.

Your problem is that you view sex like it is a one-off technical routine that is to be performed again and again. Not only does that make me snooze... but it isn't even making the most out of it.... snooze...... ZZzzzzzzzz
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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 1:27 AM
Crow: You recognize that.

How can you attack porn when you admit it provides more pleasure?

I recognize that I am with a man for 6 years who was and is addicted to porn and we have yet to have had the intimate kind of sex that I once enjoyed a long time ago. I know what I like and wouldn't ruin my natural likes with something fake.
JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 1:31 AM
Crow: You haven't even clicked the links I provided that back up what many women physically enjoy. Not everyone has fetishes and needs anything other than intimacy with someone they love to derive emotional and physical pleasure.
Crow
By Crow | Aug 14 2016 1:32 AM
JoMomma: Fake? Seems the end result is just as real.

Also I would be careful about summarizing your sexuality at any stage in life. It is a large world out there. Seriously don't know any category that is more diverse in preferences than sex.
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By Crow | Aug 14 2016 1:37 AM
JoMomma: You haven't even clicked the links I provided that back up what many women physically enjoy. Not everyone has fetishes and needs anything other than intimacy with someone they love to derive emotional and physical pleasure.

I actually did click on your links.

One, I didn't see the relevance. The first one was just in regards to penis locations that created orgasms, and really had little to do with actual positions. Obviously an orgasm is going to be pleasurable, but there are also different strengths of orgasms, which is something I keep having to bring up.

Two, I didn't find them substantive. I question the validity of any survey consisting of a couple people, and regarding something as private as sex. There are also too many unknown variables, like fetishes for god sakes. That is the most important.

And everyone has fetishes. If you do not know your fetishes, then you do not understand your sexuality. I could derive basic and popular fetishes just from what you told me, but I would rather not play sex psychologist.

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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 14 2016 1:51 AM
Crow: You can't substitute counterfeit for real when it comes to pleasure. I know my energy is drained and my internal muscles get weak from giving my man the kind of sex he desires and I know that I was energized and that my middle gets tight and my waist gets smaller from having the kind of pleasure that satisfies me. His kind of sex results in feeling crappy and for him the more crappy sex he gets the more he wants cuz it is never satisfying, my kind results in satisfaction and deep relaxation and increased energy after resting, but he has numbed himself from being able to enjoy natural sex.

I'm gonna attempt to break it down for you one more time. If you have a shaft that enters a cylinder at the wrong angle, friction will develop on the wrong part of the cylinder wall and eventually lead to weakening of that wall and the shaft will never reach to the "on" switch at the top of the cylinder.

If you have a shaft that enters a cylinder and proceeds to reach the top of the cylinder where there is a button with an "on" switch, the entire cylinder will engulf the shaft and provide a vacuum of sorts.

Do you get it? I'm not going to write in sexually descriptive language because it isn't my intention to arouse anyone. It is my intention to explain the female anatomy I have, and how it relates to the male anatomy, so that two people who genuinely like each other who reads this can explore each other with a bit of fore knowledge. Bet your daddy never explained to you what I just did.
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