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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 12 2016 2:29 AM
admin: Are you being sarcastic?
admin
By admin | Aug 12 2016 2:33 AM
JoMomma: No. I was raised by a single mom and while certainly there was some pushback, it wasn't like she was blamed for literally every social and economic problem in the world. Usually it was just vague references to it being immoral.

Granted, I do live on the other side of the world.
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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 12 2016 2:56 AM
admin: Well in the US, it is a common theme, that single moms and our illegitimate children are the cause of many of society's woes. I'm not advocating that it is the ideal way to raise kids in many cases, but many people refuse to acknowledge that the temperaments of kids raised by single moms are often more compassionate than the temperaments of kids raised in traditional families.
Crow
By Crow | Aug 12 2016 10:41 AM
but many people refuse to acknowledge that the temperaments of kids raised by single moms are often more compassionate than the temperaments of kids raised in traditional families.

Faggy, unstructured, and lacking character. For most children raised under single moms in my opinion.experience.

There is a jaded end for those raised by single fathers, although the number of loafers is statistically lower when you compare single fathers and single mothers.
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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 12 2016 10:51 AM
Crow: Unstructured can be a good thing. Creativity and adaptability is a result.
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By Crow | Aug 12 2016 10:57 AM
JoMomma: Structure does not imply a lack of creativity and open-mindedness. It is what keeps us grounded in reality, as opposed to being on a 24/7 delusional high.

There are roles associated with the sexes when it comes to parenting, and obviously they do not apply to everyone, but many are pretty close to being universal.

The real key in having two parents, is that kids need to be shaped by more than just one person. Single parents that are not actively pursuing a father/mother figure for their children, have a flaw in character right from the gecko.
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By Crow | Aug 12 2016 10:59 AM
admin: No. I was raised by a single mom...

That explains a lot.
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By admin | Aug 12 2016 11:20 AM
Crow: You do seem to like nothing more than judging people, especially me.
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By Crow | Aug 12 2016 12:02 PM
admin: Maybe if I was raised by a single mother I would of turned out more passive and timid.
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Bi0Hazard
By Bi0Hazard | Aug 12 2016 8:42 PM
Bi0Hazard: 1. I don't subscribe to any political ideology while having an interest in political philosophy.
2. I believe society can be organized in several different ways and be sustained. Basically, people who subscribe to political ideologies like social democracy(welfare liberal) or anarchism usually believe that their advocated society is the utopia(most perfect, not necessarily perfect in all ways) of all the rest. I disagree that there is a utopia society of all the rest.
3. I don't believe Islam is a religion of terror.
4. I don't believe communism is evil.
5. I choose liberty over a police state(sacrificing liberty for security).
6. I believe politics(representative democracy) is stupid, pointless, and BS. Since it is about electing a ruler in a such organized process(like it is so important).
7. I am not brainwashed by statism(into thinking the state is what we need).
8. I refer to myself as secular but Christian(secular christian).
9. I accept Intelligent Design over Darwin.

Oh, and for #10, I believe capitalism is superior to social democracy(shocking, I know) and is the most successful economic system known as of now.
admin
By admin | Aug 13 2016 1:36 AM
Well I'll say a few of mine. Here's a rough top 10.

1. I think the USA is the worst country in the world overall
2. I oppose war in every circumstance
3. I love science and totally agree with it but hate how it's taught
4. I believe we should try to abolish the need to work
5. I oppose same-sex schooling
6. I love the idea of government but I hate most governments
7. I think Keynes was mostly right
8. I believe the UNDHR doesn't go far enough
9. I think the Bronte sisters' writing isn't that boring
10. I think edeb8 is going great
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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 13 2016 4:51 AM
Crow: Structure does not imply a lack of creativity and open-mindedness. It is what keeps us grounded in reality, as opposed to being on a 24/7 delusional high.
So are you admitting the the offspring of single moms seem "happier?"
There are roles associated with the sexes when it comes to parenting, and obviously they do not apply to everyone, but many are pretty close to being universal.
Oh you mean like father figures providing pornography for young males to make sure they aren't led into actually pleasing females.
The real key in having two parents, is that kids need to be shaped by more than just one person. Single parents that are not actively pursuing a father/mother figure for their children, have a flaw in character right from the gecko.
I disagree that they have a flaw in their character for not wanting some guy to dominate their kids. I had physical relationships with men that didn't involve my kids, because they were uncomfortable around strange men. I had male neighbors and extended family that were role models for them.
Crow
By Crow | Aug 13 2016 11:04 AM
JoMomma: So are you admitting the the offspring of single moms seem "happier?"

Actually I do not.

Oh you mean like father figures providing pornography for young males to make sure they aren't led into actually pleasing females.

Quite the loaded question. Especially from someone who never watches pornography.

Mothers should of be giving their daughters pornography. Women who watch it and masturbate are more adventurous, less insecure, and more confident about their sexuality. These higher standards are overall positive.

Women not aware of their tastes and fetishes get boring after a couple of uses. Same with men.

I disagree that they have a flaw in their character for not wanting some guy to dominate their kids.

Who is talking about domination? Most good fathers in my opinion are lax and supportive. It is mothers who will tan your hide for the littlest of things.

I had male neighbors and extended family that were role models for them.

Not really the same.
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By admin | Aug 13 2016 11:42 AM
Crow: I wonder if you'd impose the same standards on people raised by single fathers, then. Some of my best friends as a kid were orphans and they turned out just fine.
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By Crow | Aug 13 2016 12:29 PM
admin: The only standard I imposed is that single mothers should actively look for another parental figure.

I would hold that same standard for single fathers as well.

Some of my best friends as a kid were orphans and they turned out just fine.

Relative.

I personally think that you are screwed in the head, but others might disagree.
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Krazy
By Krazy | Aug 13 2016 4:11 PM
Famousdebater: What opinions do you hold that are shocking and generally believed by a small amount of people?

Well, a lot of what I believe is controversial, but here are the top 10 that seems to tick most people off.

1. Jesus Christ is the God and Savior of all mankind to all who will receive Him (have faith in Him) to wash away their sins with His shedded blood.
2. Public schools shouldn't exist.
3. Prison shouldn't be a punishment (in exchange for lashing or death).
4. Everybody should be armed with a rifle in public.
5. Evolution is not only very stupid, but an extremely dangerous religion. More people have been killed as a result of the ideology of evolution than Islam.
6. Homosexuals should be put to death (also pedophiles, beastialitics, etc. But the homosexuality thing seems to anger more people for some reason).
7. Women should submit to their husbands, be homemakers, and shouldn't wear pants.
8. People who have non-life-saving abortions should be put to death (as well as the doctors who actually perform them).
9. The only purpose of the government is to protect, not to provide. So it should stay out of welfare, health care, education, etc. And should spend money only in law enforcement and military.
10. All men at age 16 and up should receive mandatory military training.
JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 13 2016 5:58 PM
Crow: being on a 24/7 delusional high
This thought seems to be implying happiness.
Quite the loaded question. Especially from someone who never watches pornography.

Mothers should of be giving their daughters pornography. Women who watch it and masturbate are more adventurous, less insecure, and more confident about their sexuality. These higher standards are overall positive.

Women not aware of their tastes and fetishes get boring after a couple of uses. Same with men.

"A couple of uses." Really? Your attitude is why I kept guys who weren't neighbors or relatives away from my sons, so that they wouldn't objectify women to be used for their own gratification. They were never alone with any males - as a matter of fact - until they were past puberty other than a few select guys I respected. The only guys I ever trusted was their rugby coaches and some of their friends dads, because I respected those men.
Who is talking about domination? Most good fathers in my opinion are lax and supportive. It is mothers who will tan your hide for the littlest of things.

Here is an opinion I hold that is very controversial. Men should be seen and not heard by children, (in many cases). If I could have found a guy to set the example of working and paying the bills, and support my parenting, I would have sought a father figure for them. I wasn't gonna stand for some guy coming in and corrupting the morals I was instilling in my sons, and have him teach them that my ideas were less significant because I don't have a dick. My sons are honest and good workers and independent thinkers who don't feel socially pressured to conform to the sub-standards that other guys set. They are masculine and competitive as well, because I nurtured them to celebrate their natural strengths. I never disciplined them for petty things, but I did expect honesty and encouraged freedom of expression.
Crow
By Crow | Aug 13 2016 6:37 PM
"A couple of uses." Really? Your attitude is why I kept guys who weren't neighbors or relatives away from my sons, so that they wouldn't objectify women to be used for their own gratification.

Who is talking about objectifying women? I applied the same standard to men.

Those that are not in touch with their sexuality and fetishes get boring. Sorry if you don't like reality, but there it is.

Do you expect either sex to do the same thing 1000 times and still have it be interesting?


Here is an opinion I hold that is very controversial. Men should be seen and not heard by children, (in many cases). If I could have found a guy to set the example of working and paying the bills, and support my parenting, I would have sought a father figure for them. I wasn't gonna stand for some guy coming in and corrupting the morals I was instilling in my sons, and have him teach them that my ideas were less significant because I don't have a dick

Sounds like you are demeaning and objectifying men.

It was the same with the sex discussion. You believe men need to do 100% of the work in sex, be 100% supportive of everything a woman says. You also just said that they need to be the ones paying the bills.

You are the one treating men like objects for your own self-gratification.
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JoMomma
By JoMomma | Aug 13 2016 7:24 PM
Crow: Who is talking about objectifying women? I applied the same standard to men.
So are you bi? If not why are you speaking for what females find pleasurable and satisfying. If a guy did it right i could do it the same way daily and never get bored!
It was the same with the sex discussion. You believe men need to do 100% of the work in sex,
You read what you wanted to in the sex discussion, I'm not gonna try to explain my perspective when you refuse to listen, just because I adhere to the belief that sex shouldn't have to be a "performance" for either person to be enjoyable.
be 100% supportive of everything a woman says. You also just said that they need to be the ones paying the bills.

A guy better be 100% supportive of a woman who has children when he enters the picture, otherwise he should stay out of the picture. A guy should contribute financially to the household he resides in, I never said pay 100%.
You are the one treating men like objects for your own self-gratification.
I'm simply treating men like they have treated me and other females.
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Crow
By Crow | Aug 13 2016 8:22 PM
JoMomma: So are you bi? If not why are you speaking for what females find pleasurable and satisfying.

Okay, here is where you sound really silly.

Everytime I deny that all women share the exact same sexuality, you then proceed to generalize all women by saying they have the same tastes. Completely disregarding the existence of fetishes.

I'm not gonna try to explain my perspective when you refuse to listen, just because I adhere to the belief that sex shouldn't have to be a "performance" for either person to be enjoyable.

First of all, I do not care about your perspective or preference. I care that you are trying to speak for over 3.5 billion women.

And yes, you need to put work into sex. That is how you generally produce longer and heightened orgasms. Otherwise it would just be placing a cock in a vagina. Nothing special about that.

If it is exhausting or unenjoyable, then chances are both parties are sexually incompatible or at least need to be more experimental. That's just the way it is.

A guy better be 100% supportive of a woman who has children when he enters the picture, otherwise he should stay out of the picture. A guy should contribute financially to the household he resides in, I never said pay 100%.

Okay, well I agree with everything you said.

I do find the first bit to be kind of 20-20. My mother was a shitty parent. God help me if I was being denied a father, because just about anyone would find her to be an awful parent after getting to know her.

I'm simply treating men like they have treated me and other females.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

There are plenty of gentleman out there. Your attacks on men is out of character, and really has no relevance to anything being discussed.

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